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Confirmed: Ken Karcher out

December 2, 2012

Well, it’s enough confirmation for me, anyway. Eagle-eyed Eagle Totem reader “Carl Lumberg” noticed that EMU opened a new job posting today: “Assistant Head Coach (Men’s Football)“. Although the posting doesn’t identify the specific position beyond that, it does specify that “[s]upervision is received from the Head Coach” and that “[f]unctional supervision may be exercised over assistant coaches and administrative supervision may be exercised over student support staff”, so that’s pretty clearly a coordinator, and given Ron English’s comments after the last game, I think it’s fair to guess that this is for an offensive coordinator — Ken Karcher’s replacement.

So here’s your chance! If you or anyone you know has a Bachelor’s Degree and “[k]nowledge of sport rules, conference rules, appropriate training techniques, and winning play/contest strategies” for football, plus ideally “[t]hree years previous college coaching experience within the sport” and “[e]xperience in counseling and advising student athletes”, you could be EMU’s next offensive coordinator…but remember, only Ron English is allowed to call for fake field goals, and you’re expected to run out the clock at the end of every first half.

16 Comments leave one →
  1. December 2, 2012 6:41 pm

    Not so fast my friend (in my Lee Corso voice). This may not be Karcher – or at least he may not be the only one. I have a hutch that a few other assistant coaches may have been or are on the hot seat as well.

    It’s now or “see ya” for English so he may do some aggressive house keeping. Keep your eyes open for more development.

    • cmadler permalink*
      December 2, 2012 9:14 pm

      I wouldn’t be surprised if other assistants are gone, but from the description, I do think it’s a coordinator (are there any other assistants who supervise other coaches?), that would almost certainly be Karcher.

  2. MACrules permalink
    December 2, 2012 8:32 pm

    Karcher is out. Stan Parrish in. Done deal.

    • cmadler permalink*
      December 2, 2012 9:17 pm

      I ragged on him an awful lot when he was head coach at Ball State — and I make no apology for that, he was a terrible head coach at Ball State, and at Kansas State back in the ’80s — but from what I can find out he was actually a pretty decent offensive coordinator at Ball State (under Hoke) and at Michigan (under Carr). Not that I think another Lloyd Carr disciple is the solution for EMU, but I don’t think I’d be terribly upset about this…Win, and — well, we win! — lose, and I get to make fun of Stan Parrish more!

      • December 3, 2012 3:43 pm

        No, Stan Parrish was awful at UM. He is terrible.

  3. December 3, 2012 12:05 am

    Maybe we should give ole’ Jeff Geynk a call.

  4. Chief Huron permalink
    December 3, 2012 8:21 am

    I don’t think Genyk and English can stand each other. Where’s the confirmation of this on the official website and was is the source of Parrish coming in?

  5. Ken permalink
    December 3, 2012 11:36 am

    So an old Lloyd Carr assistant, which probably means we’ll see more of the same. Run up the middle. run up the middle. Run up the middle. Punt.

  6. December 3, 2012 1:30 pm

    Please no more I formation b.s. we need something fresh and new.they need somebody who going to bring the spread offense in and get us movin the ball and scorin some point

    • December 3, 2012 5:07 pm

      They will go to the spread offense now that gillett is gone. b cuz that is the way english does things azz backwards. benz is not a spread qb. if they just mix things up i tnk they’ll be allright. benz will never last trying to run the spread they’ll,bust him up

  7. December 3, 2012 5:23 pm

    Just because a coach was part of a losing team in the past doesn’t mean they won’t be good and succeed at their next.

    There are a ton of coaches in college football that didn’t do well at one school and went on to another and won/attended bowl games and championships.

    Here are a few examples:

    – Bob Diaco: Coached for EMU. Got dismissed when Jeff Woodruff was fired. He is now the DC for Notre Dame. 2012 Outcome – Undefeated and going to the BCS Championship game.

    – Scott Isphording: Coached for EMU. Got dismissed when Jeff Genyk was fired. He’s now the QB coach for Toledo. 2012 Outcome – 9-3 and going to the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

    – Chris Symington: Coached for EMU. Got dismissed when Jeff Genyk was fired. He’s now the OL coach for Colorado State University-Pueblo. 2012 Outcome – Undefeated and one of top rushing teams in DII.

    I’m sure that I can list at least a few more but these are just the ones off the top of my head. This shows that we can get on the coaches all we want, but it’s not always on them.

    1.) It’s about the program. EMU is still trying to get program support from alumni. EMU gets so much verbal support, but nothing physical. “Oh yeah, I went to EMU. I don’t go to any football games though.” TRUEMU?…yeah right.

    2.) It’s about the system. Some coaches are better in particular systems. It’s not about the name, it’s about their expertise in the specific style of play.

    3.) It’s about the caliber of players. You can bring Nick Saban here and without a large amount of top caliber players, even he wont be that successful. Coaching becomes an after thought when the players can coach themselves. EMU need more players that can learn and apply. In the end, it doesnt matter who’s wearing the headset, the boys on the field have to go out and play.

    • December 3, 2012 10:14 pm

      So what your saying in short is. you just can’t coach no talent. how did hazell do that at kent st? They came out of nowhere. Here’s a thought good coaches can make something out of mediocre talent. need i say more?

      • December 3, 2012 10:44 pm

        Of course you coach talent. I never said anything about talent though. I mentioned caliber.

        Caliber is more than just a player’s skills. Its smarts as well attitude and personality. You can run a 4.3 40 is highschool but if you can’t learn and establish good football IQ, you’re not effective. You can bench 400 pounds but if you can’t stay out of trouble, you’re no help.

        When a coach doesn’t have to worry about teaching the basics in mid-season, that shows the caliber of players on the team. The coaches can work on plays and not players.

        Talent only gets you so far. This is why some athletes are just good, some are great, and some are legends.

        Note: Not everyone will have a quick success like Kent State. If you expect that every time a new coach comes in, you shouldn’t hold your breath.

      • December 3, 2012 11:33 pm

        He had that”caliber” in gillett. he’s smart tuff fast and was made to order for the spread. they should have went with it 3yrs ago. if they had we would have at least seen exciting football more wins an a lot more fans at the games. why he wouldn’t do it i don’no. but he is ultimately responsible for the best interest of the team.


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